Linux

The problem with chromebooks is that the base specs are pretty shit. A lot of them have 4 GiB of RAM and maybe 16GiB of disk if you're lucky.

They were designed to be thin clients to connect students to the internet, and little else. Maybe they could be hacked into something useful, but I don't think it'll ever make a good PC. They were always destined for the landfill.

Meanwhile, the best thinkpads were quality machines back when they came out. IMO, that's why they're still so versatile today. Free software can't fix bad fundamentals.

They are built like tanks? The Chromebook laptops I've come across were flimsy as aluminiumfoil. The plastic hinges were so weak you had to try to not tear the screen from the keyboard!

Chromebooks? Built like tanks?

Maybe if you folded origami tanks and spritzed them with water. They're cheap, they're cheaply made, and they're made to be e-waste.

Most Chromebooks from the last 5 years have 8 GB of RAM and 32/64 GB internal drive. That's not enough to satisfy the kind of user who would buy a Thinkpad.

I have 4 Chromebooks that I converted to Linux, from the era before the aforementioned, with 4 GB of RAM and 16 GB of internal space (and just 1366x768 res -- kdenlive and some cad apps don't fit in that res, not even some of the DE pref panels fit!). At 16 GB internal disk, only Debian fits in there properly. Mint and all ubuntu-based ones, or fedora are either out of space, or with only 1 gb left (Debian leaves 8 GB free). Also, it's near impossible to use a modern web browser to browse the web with 4-5 tabs at the same time at 4 GB of RAM -- you always hit the swap sooner than later. So it's literally bare bones experience.

The newer Chromebooks, with 8 GB RAM and 32/64 internal space are definitely better, but still nowhere near the "modern" specs required to run Linux properly (especially if you also want to do some video editing). In fact, look at the Cosmic DE. While it's new, and without any code fluff, it requires a minimum of 2.4 GB of RAM just to boot (which is more than gnome/kde).

So yeah, Chromebooks have nothing on Thinkpads. Not for the kind of users who buy thinkpads anyway.

Hot take. 🍿

I'm not so sure... for the following reasons:

1. Despite using a version of the Linux kernel in ChromeOS, Chromebooks don't always have the best hardware (ie. driver) support from the mainline kernel used by most distributions. That's why there are niche distributions like GalliumOS which provide tweaks to support the touchpad and audio devices in many Chromebooks. It's similar to how Android is Linux, but it's not standard Linux as we are familiar with (so the hardware support is different).

2. Many Chromebooks have really poor specs: low-wattage CPUs, small amounts of storage, low amounts of RAM. While they may be newer, they are actually probably less performant than older laptops. This has changed in recent years with the new Chromebook plus program (or whatever it is called) which mandates a reasonable set of baseline features, but that is talking about current Chromebooks and not the ones from the COVID era.

3. Related to the previous point, many Chromebooks are not serviceable or upgradeable while Thinkpads and some recent laptops are. You are unlikely to open up a Chromebook and be able to replace say the RAM or SSD, which would be a show stopper for a lot of people that like Thinkpads.

So... unfortunately, I think this take is a bit of a miss and I dont' really see it happening. I would be happy to be proven wrong though since my kids have two Chromebooks from the COVID era :}

My old Thinkpads disagree.

Thinkpads are fairly powerful as laptops go. Are you talking about some very strong variety of chromebook here?

New Thinkpads are still great Linux laptops, so there's a steady stream of newer 2nd hand models coming on the market.

Pfffft...the hell they are.

First off, so few models of Chromebooks even allow you to bother sideloading or outright install a Linux distro over ChromeOS. Eventually, Google cut that stuff out so now almost every Chromebook now won't allow you to do that without going through some Developer Mode loop that makes you think you'll get by.

Secondly, Chromebooks are just e-waste. That's their design. They're only made to be online-only "laptops" with just an expiration date attached to them, that date being how long Google wants to bother supporting it with security updates provided something doesn't break down first within the first two years.

Thinkpads have more longevity, they're built well and they're meant to go the distance. Chromebooks has been and will continue to be a joke.

ARM is the biggest reason this is unlikely to happen imo. Software compatibility is key.

https://docs.mrchromebox.tech/

A lot of Chromebooks can have Linux natively put on them.

I see a lot of pooh-poohing of the idea in this thread, but I think there's people who are willing to do so.

I just took an old Lenovo ThinkCentre Chromebox 10H5 and modified the UEFI firmware with the walkthru from MrChromebox to put Xubuntu on it. It's actually pretty snappy despite its limited hardware.

Also, I upgraded the 16gb M.2 SSD into a far more sufficient 256gb size.

The shortage of RAM is rough, but it can still be a workhorse in a lot of ways. I plan on replacing Xubuntu with a server version to get a little boost out of running it headless to drop the RAM going to rendering a GUI.

https://zipso.net/chromebook-specs-comparison-table/ I didn't know there were so many Chromebooks. I'm no longer in school (for long time) and don't know if German schools get any netbooks or Chromebooks to work with.