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What you can do: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/messaging-and-chat-control/#WhatYouCanDo

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Edit: Article linked is from 2002 (overview of why this legislation is bad), but it is coming up for a vote on the 19th see https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/council-to-greenlight-chat-control-take-action-now/

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[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 27 points 3 months ago

Tomorrow liberty probably dies :(

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I just did my part and wrote an email.

[–] makeasnek@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago

🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡

[–] Majestic@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So first it's client-side scanning for CSAM. Not without some nobility. But the problem is once you wedge open that door it's technically possible to do it for other things and so you become compelled to.

It'll move from just CSAM to stopping and tracking "propaganda" as deemed by them which will be narrow-ish at first (anything pro-Russia, RT links, etc) but gradually expand over time to anything outside the mainstream branded as extremist (and guess what, privacy advocates will definitely fall within that label). And once that's in place the private stake-holders, copyright holders will come knocking, they'll say rightly so "hey you have the capability right now, we demand you implement client-side scanning to detect copyright violations" and then that will be ordered by a court, further enshrined by a law and oh look now you can no longer send political thought that the ruling regime disagrees with, can no longer surf the high seas, and so on and so forth. Congratulations and please enjoy living in the "garden" of Europe.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago

The US uses the Patriot Act to spy on innocent people under the guise of terrorism. Once you open the door, they knock the wall down.

[–] Fijxu@programming.dev 8 points 3 months ago

Keep me updated Europe friends. If they implement this, for sure other countries will implement this as well.

[–] Ninjazzon@infosec.pub 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

yes, then it got rejected, and now another iteration is about to be voted on on June 20, 2024 https://digitalcourage.social/@echo_pbreyer/112637908478562409

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Regarding email which provider would be best suited if this goes true? Because Tuta is hosted in Germany it seems less optimal then say Proton?

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If I cared about the contents of email staying safe, would rather not depend on a provider and just use provider-independent PGP. If safety is more important than universality - then I'd use something outside of email in general, like XMPP+OMEMO or maybe Simplex.

[–] ReversalHatchery 1 points 3 months ago

Safety should not only be for the technically adept. There should be a solution that is appropriate for your relatives too, and that probably does not involve manual PGP.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

I honestly don't see how they can regulate pgp encryption. How would that work?

[–] starman@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago

It doesn't make a big difference. You are going to send emails to Gmail most of the time anyway.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Before privacy guides changed there was a spreadsheet with all providers, security details and wether or not they have ever complied to government requesting access.

If i recall correctly proton did not score very great. Disroot did very well on paper but was considered new and had yet to proof itself

Anyone know if this (updated) information still exists?

[–] Jako301@feddit.de 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Proton pretty much always complies with government access requests, and they never claimed otherwise. They, however, don't have access to the content of your emails due to their encryption, meaning the data they give to governments is restricted to what you give them. They can at most give out your name, payment information, and backup mail if you voluntarily gave that info to them.

[–] ReversalHatchery 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

My MEPs are not MEPs anymore. They were replaced by

  • the leading right wing corrupt party
  • an entirely new party formed less than a year ago, who is said to have achived this with the help of a former Meta employee as a party member
  • a far right party with "former" nazis in their members

Which of them should I contact?