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Alt text: an ad for Github Copilot when viewing files in a github repo

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[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 56 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)
  1. it's not intrusive
  2. it can be dismissed in one click, and this hides these ads everywhere and permanently
[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 48 points 7 months ago

Yeah... And microtransactions in videogames used to be "just cosmetic". /s

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Someone needs to turn the hyperbole dial down on Lemmy. My feed is frequently nothing but Chicken Little's whining about trivial shit. When something truly egregious comes up, I'm not going to be able to see if in a sea of outrage.

[–] survivalmachine 6 points 7 months ago

Privacy, FOSS, leftists -- all of these communities have a very large presence here, and while I love all of them, they do tend to love their purity tests. Purity tests have been a constant in these communities for as long as I can remember them existing. Lemmy just has a high concentration of 'em.

[–] Restaldt@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago

Please drink verification can to push

[–] tengkuizdihar@programming.dev 48 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Do they require a phone number? I tried to sign up to gitlab (just to post bug reports!) but they required a phone number (which is linked to government ID).

[–] tengkuizdihar@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago

no, email is enough

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Enshitification doesn't really apply to GitHub because you aren't really locked into GitHub. At least you aren't so long as you consider the git part of it to be more important than the social media platform part of it. Repositories are totally interoperable with other services so the cost to jump platform is fairly low. At least so long as you aren't relying on curling stuff directly from GitHub, which everyone knows is a terrible idea and very bad practice yet happens all the time anyway.

The template and framework of this idea requires social media platforms be finger traps, with way higher costs to leave than enter.

Doctrow himself is pretty clear about this. Interoperability is the way you fight back against enshitification.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Github is pretty much a social network for coders these days. If it was so easy to switch away or just not use their service, why is it that the vast majority of projects are hosted there? Git alone can't be the reason, as you rightly say it isn't any different from other git hosts. The relevant parts are the collaboration features and those are exactly the type of social media that enshittification applies to.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Doctrow himself is pretty clear about this. Interoperability is the way you fight back against enshitification.

funny that's not what I just read in his FT piece "There are four constraints that prevent enshittification: competition, regulation, self-help and labour. To reverse enshittification and guard against its re-emergence, we must restore and strengthen each of these." published just yesterday.

Also FWIW we absolutely are locked into GitHub... because others are too. That's why M$ bought it in the first place, classic strategy from Redmond. I go use Gitlab, have my own Gitea instance, but in practice where do people talk on issues? Github. That's why even entities like Mozilla or KDE that have entire CI and bug system outside of Github still often have mirrors there. Because that's sadly where most of us end up being locked.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Ublock > Pick Element > Click that > Create.

I get that it shouldn't be there but imo GitHub has made a lot more annoying changes to their UI than this piece of text

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

you don't need ublock to remove it, just hover over it and press a cross button. it permanently dismisses ALL copilot ads.

[–] hakase@lemm.ee 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

yes, permanently. I hit that little x a year ago and haven't seen this little ad thing ever since

[–] hakase@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

It's only permanent until they decide that it isn't.

[–] aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 7 months ago
[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Github is not a two sided market, enshittification does not apply. They make all their money from users.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No they don't. Github was aquired by Microsoft to act as a funnel into their Azure Cloud and similar projects and thus subject to that "market".

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

All owned by microsoft right?

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yes, hence the quotation marks in "market". But Microsoft is a company large enough to have an internal "market" for different departments and there is also the outward pressure from Mirosoft's shareholders for whom the cloud business in the main driver of profits/stock value.

Edit: Maybe to make it more clear: Yes there are no advertisers as in the classical "enshittification" model, but Github is subject to similar outside pressures that do not prioritize the needs of the Github users and thus a very similar dynamic enfolds.