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[–] alex@agora.nop.chat 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Out of interest, is it better for server load to have new instances federating, or to have users using the instance directly? I assumed that the reliable way of handling this would be to run my own instance and keep it closed for friends I know in real life to use. I don't want to moderate a community, but I also like the reliability (and fun) of self-hosting, and knowing I can just stop using a server if their instance rules change to be against my own principals without losing my user history etc.

How does that mesh with what Lemmy is trying to do? I know I'm going to be in the vast minority here, but I'd like to know if I'm exacerbating load issues.

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The load issues are because of users directly connecting to lemmy.ml. Federation isnt using many resources, so its best if users spread out across different instances.

[–] whitehatbofh 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does it take to spin up an instance and federate? Can I just grab a docker image and go with some cloud Linux instance? What resources are we looking at for what headcount of users / level of engagement? (ie, posts and or connections per minute, etc)

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[–] alex@agora.nop.chat 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the confirmation, glad to not be adding more than my fair share.

[–] jmp242@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am not an expert, but I think join lemmy suggested joining smaller instances and federating.

[–] alex@agora.nop.chat 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This would make sense to me - I assume it's the equivalent of a single user seeing basically everything on a given community once, vs loading it from DB (or at least cache) for every request for each new individual user. Every time I load the front page on my server, it's just fetching stuff from my own instance, right?

EDIT: Looks like it does load things from other servers, but only images. Everything else comes from my own instance.

[–] Mac@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm considering hosting my own instance. Can you point me to where i can get started? I'm a noob.

[–] alex@agora.nop.chat 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You'll want to start here, but it depends how comfortable you are with self-hosting as to whether it'll be a walk in the park. I had good luck with it, but I self host a lot of stuff and know what kinds of pitfalls there are. The docs aren't totally up to par - I might take a look at contributing to improving them - so you may need to do some searching around if you have problems. There's a Lemmy Support community on lemmy.ml you could check out too.

[–] Mac@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Right-on, thanks! It helps just to have a little direction—even if imperfect. I usually seek out multiple sources, anyway.

[–] DudePluto@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

The issue is that some instances are having trouble federating. It took me a while to find my small community from lemmy.world - and when I did the upvotes and comments were all incorrect (many not showing up). Checked on beehaw and couldn't even find my community