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[–] MoonlitSanguine@lemmy.one 14 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Unfortunantly this kind of data will be misused. I remember there was a big push from my governemnt to use contact tracing apps. Only to find out later that police were using it in investigations.

[–] max@feddit.nl 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Got a source for that? The approach google and Apple implemented was completely anonymous, even with rolling identifiers.

[–] MoonlitSanguine@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It was not the Google/Apple implementation. They were government funded apps which used a centralised db.

https://thewest.com.au/politics/law-and-order/wa-police-accessed-contact-tracing-data-c-3118717

[–] max@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago

Ah, figures. Thanks! I had the assumption that most, if not all countries used the google/Apple tech, since my own country did just that, as well as the neighbouring countries here.

[–] Kleinbonum@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago

This is about decentralized, privacy-preserving contact-tracing apps, though.

Centralized apps are definitely a problem.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

What government/country was this, out of curiosity? I thought the whole point of the local-storage-only approach was protecting privacy, so curious how it could be used in investigations.

[–] MoonlitSanguine@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago

Australia. Government funded apps, not the Google/iOS implementation. It's been a few years so I was a bit confused on the details. It is not stored locally which is how it was used.

[–] ruination@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

well, that's the centralised implementation, which i also don't like. iirc there's a decentralised implementation where, instead of tracking your location and sending it to a central server, each device would have a uuid. whenever you come near someone, both of your devices would just swap uuids and take note of them, and if either of you catches covid, they can just open that list of collected uuids and use that to notify the people who came into contact with them. imo not only is this more privacy-friendly, but it saves infrastructure costs from not having to host centralised servers.

[–] snowe@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Do you have a link talking about that? I didn’t hear about it. If you use the iPhone or Android built in solutions it wasn’t possible to track users with them. Was it other apps that were giving your data away?

[–] MoonlitSanguine@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Australia. It was not the built in solution, but a government made one (SafeWA)

[–] snowe@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

wow. what a farce. absolutely ridiculous. this is why people don't trust governments.

[–] somefool 1 points 2 years ago

The article mentions a centralized system in Singapore, TraceTogether: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-55541001