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[–] nihilx7E3 52 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I paid for my loans - why should we forgive the loans

first off... you do know that the economy doesn't just stay stagnant for decades, right? houses aren't $17,000 anymore. the fact that you were able to pay your loans before has little to do with how expensive student loans are now.

secondly, the logic of "i did it so they should have to do it to" is quite a toxic & nonproductive way to think about society, & societal change. what you need to realize is that this sentiment comes from a place of envy & bitterness rather than actual logic. you don't want things to improve for the next generation because you can't fathom someone having it easier than you. you could apply this logic to anything, & the final conclusion will always just be "why bother changing", it's not much different from the conclusions you'd reach through pessimistic nihilism. growing up i was poor, so much so that sometimes we didn't even have dinner, a house or even a car to sleep in. does that mean i should raise my future children in poverty too? why not? i did it, got through it, so the next generation should have to get through it too, right?

if, throughout human history, our entire reasoning for making changes in society was "well i had to do it so they have to too" then we'd still be in huts & making fire with sticks. our ancestors didn't work, fight, & die so that the next generation would have to live the exact same life as them, they worked so that their children could have better. & this drive for the next generation to have a better life than the last is the reason why we've worked so hard to improve, invent, & innovate over the course of human history. it's why we even have a safe society in the first place, & probably why your parents worked so hard to give you a great life too.

what is already the most entitled generation ever?

according to who, & what? from my perspective, the generation who had an economy so great that they could afford a house & family without college & yet still choose to complain about everything is the most entitled. but i guess we're all spoiled brats because we want to have an actual future.

Otherwise where does it stop? Are they going to forgive mortgages and car loans next? Why not? It’s the same principle.

slippery slope is known as a logical fallacy for a reason

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@lemmy.one 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is just a beautiful response. Thank you for writing it up so that I didn't have to attempt it.

[–] nihilx7E3 4 points 1 year ago

thanks lol, usually i wouldn't have bothered attempting to engage with someone like this either, but i figured trying to actually educate someone for once is more conductive to the spirit of this instance than just angrily ignoring😅

[–] storksforlegs 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If Beehaw had awards or gilding of some kind, I would give you some for this response.

[–] reric88 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for putting to words what I wouldn't be able to until next week while in the shower and then I forget before I dry off and get to my phone!

Also, to add, corporations buy these student loans and then skyrocket them, making it extremely difficult to pay them off.

[–] nihilx7E3 3 points 1 year ago

i struggle with coming up with responses late too lol, don't know what got into me there

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