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Overseer: A Fediverse Chain of Trust (dbzer0.com)

submitted 1 year ago by db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/div0@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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This is my current attempt at preparing to counter the spam waves that will be appearing as the fediverse becomes more and more popular.

It involves the creation of whitelists based on a chain of trust between instances with easy ways to add and remove into it with few overheads.

Let me know what you think and if you're interested, please do register your instance at https://overctrl.dbzer0.com.

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, but this opens up another problem with a federation controlled by the server admins and not the communities. Trust can be withdrawn as a punishment or due to a disagreement or just different views.

The Fediseer I'm running is just to validate against spam, not political views. Even if someone removes their guarantee from a server due to political disagreement, someone else just has to re-add it.

And at the end of the day, The fediseer is not integrated into anything. It's an optional list some instance admins might want to use. Not everyone has to. If trust is betrayed, people will just stop using it.

[–] voluntaryexilecat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, it will work to keep spam out - I'm just not sure if it will ultimately become the border keeping the fediverse from growing when a "council of elders from the big instances" has first established itself. If the council is not diverse enough, it will be able to dictate the rules for "trust" beyond mere spam. All with good intentions of course.

From an admin's point of view, I do not want this "power" because it will corrupt me. From a user's point of view, I would rather be able to decide this for myself.

You asked for oppinions...

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Fediseer does not work as a "council of elders" though.

Likewise, a "council of elders" form regardless of the existence of Fediseer.

[–] voluntaryexilecat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Yes a council will form and I think it is very bad for everyone.

I stand by my word, admin controlled choice of individual federation weakens the network. I understand the motivation and the need for a solution, but we will only really thrive if the choice is to either federate every instance or none.