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Should the Fediverse welcome its new surveillance-capitalism overlords? Opinions differ!

https://privacy.thenexus.today/should-the-fediverse-welcome-surveillance-capitalism/

Contents:

- Two views of the fediverse
- The case for "Trust but verify"
- Wait a second. Why should anybody trust Facebook, Instagram, or Meta?
- Why the Anti-Meta FediPact is good strategy
- We're here, we're queer, fuck Facebook
- A few words about digital colonialism
- Now's a good time for instance admins to discuss with their communities
- In chaos there is opportunity!

@fediverse@lemmy.ml @fediverse@kbin.social #fediverse #Meta #FediPact

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[–] Kwakigra 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

"We need to make room for misinformation on our platforms otherwise we won't have mass appeal. A lot of people love to scapegoat populations who can't effectively defend themselves, and leaving them out just because they're contributing to creeping fascism and multiple ongoing genocides is just petty."

I will never participate in an instance which is federated with Meta or any other profit-driven instance. If profit is more important than responsibility and safety, then irresponsibility and danger can be the only consequence.

[–] Chimaera@mastodon.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@Kwakigra @thenexusofprivacy other than existing in a walled-off server how can you stop them? There will inevitably be contact from second and third hand interactions, no?

[–] Kwakigra 3 points 1 year ago

I live around it. I know plenty of people who aren't all the way in the deep end but could eventually go all the way into the deep end. What really helps them not make that final leap is that there is an extremely well deserved stigma against Nazi ideology, the most notorious strain of fascism. There is a gradient and there are plenty of secondary believers whose minds are primed to support a strongman on the elimination of all the bad people keeping society down but would use nicer words to describe it, but tertiary believers who have just been immersed in a deluge of contradictory information can be reasoned with. On this instance at least there is not a lot of tolerance for appeals to popular prejudices which may work out in a general crowd where there isn't a sufficient challenge to it.

@Chimaera there are a hundreds of instances that don't want to federate with Meta, so it won't be just a single walled-off server. It's hard to know about second and third hand interactions, it depends to some extent on how the implementation is and how the software evolves. One possibility is a schism where the anti-Meta servers defederate from the Meta-friendly servers and there are sone "neutral ground" servers where everybody can interact. We shall see!

And @Kwakigra you are far from the only one who feels that way!