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[–] l_b_i@yiffit.net 10 points 3 months ago (9 children)

This is a very technology focused view. In any user system, the users themselves have to be a consideration too. I don't use most of them for the fact I don't have a smartphone. So for my use case, any chat application that requires one might as well not exist, so read the rest of this with that in mind.

People fall into a few categories:

  • The don't cares. They use whatever everyone else uses, because that's what they need to use to talk to who they want to talk to.
  • The open and defederated. If they can't self host, it fails.
  • The anti-corporate. If it is run by a big organization, regardless of technology its a no.
  • The technological illiterate. Basically the same as the first group, but if its not really user friendly they can't figure it out.

I'm sure there are others, but these are what comes to mind first. While signal might be the one that has the best technology for many that doesn't mean, and will never mean it is the "best" because their decision matrix doesn't weigh technology as highly as you, and their knowledge doesn't allow them to understand the nuances you talk about.

[–] DarrenTheFoxcoon@pawb.social 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Agreed. Interpersonal relationships are stronger bonds then us tech dudes (myself included) tend to appreciate.

People are still on Facebook despite all their unacceptable actions over the years, because the alternative is to completely uproot your whole social circle (everyone all at once, good luck with that) or seriously risk cutting off people you care about.

Almost the same applies to Furs still on Telegram, though afaik TG hasn't ever done anything remotely as bad as Zuck, Elon or Spez

EDIT: sidestepping the uprooting part is what's fantastic about the Fediverse btw; compat and futureproofing between diff websites being a must-have from the start, and that's awesome <3

[–] l_b_i@yiffit.net 2 points 3 months ago

From a "don't care" position, Elon is probably the only one who has impacted them. For Spez a majority of users probably just use the desktop site, or official app and would be more annoyed with the mods impacting their experience than Spez for making changes. Zuck did a bunch of behind the scenes manipulations, but again the don't cares wouldn't have noticed.

The fediverse itself might be resistant to overall control, but you are still tied to an instance, so a rouge admin, or some spam in activity pub could still cause uprooting.

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