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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/17079522

To keep it short the reason why some people are ok with authoritarianism is because most structures that we deal with on a daily basis are authoritarian.

Here is evidence that shows a significant amount of people are ok with authoritarianism:

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/02/28/who-likes-authoritarianism-and-how-do-they-want-to-change-their-government/sr_24-02-28_authoritarianism_1/

This should be concerning.

And the thing is that it makes sense once you look at what are the most common systems that people interact with the most.

A clear example would be the Boss-Worker relationship. The boss creates a set of objectives/tasks for the worker and the worker sees them out. Rarely does the worker get the chance to set the higher level direction of what they are supposed to be doing with their time leaving them obedient to the boss and their demands.

Another example would be some Parent-Child relationships. Some parents treat their children as people that should show absolute respect towards them just because they are the parents not because they have something that is of value to the child (experience).

Even in the places where we do make democratic decisions those are usually made in ways that are supposed to be supplemental to authoritative decision making. An example would be how we don’t vote on decisions but instead how we vote on others to make decisions for us.

Once you add up all the experiences that someone has throughout their whole life you will see that most of them come into direct contact with authoritarian systems which means it makes that kind of way of thinking familiar and therefore acceptable.

Unlike democracy which is an abstract concept and something we only really experience from time to time.

If we want people to actually stop thinking authoritarianism is ok then we as a society are gonna have to stop using these kinds of systems / ways of thinking in our daily lives.

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[–] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I could argue with you on this for sometime but I’m not going to because that isn’t the point I’m making here.

To repeat myself

I am saying that using that kind of system to run a business plants the seeds that make people ok with living in an authoritarian world.

You aren’t actually refuting my point. You are just saying that it is impossible to not have an authority.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

No I am refuting your point. You imply that every form of authority is bad. I say it isn't. If it wasn't for authority and coordination, humanity would still be living in the stone age.

Since not every form of authority is bad, not every authority relationship makes people okay to live in an authoritarian world.

A good company has checks and balances. A union or some kind of employee committee, should be able to influence strategic level decisions. An authoritarian regime does not.

A authoritrian regime is bad, authority in a company is not. People can see the difference. Current political tendencies to the right are not a call for an authoritarian regime, but rather has cause in socio-economical dissatisfaction.

(Also, It's a nice discussion. Better than most on discussions Lemmy)