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Why would you want early access for what will likely be a buggy launch? Better to wait a month or so and at least play after the launch issues.
Even good launches like TOTK benefitted from waiting with the performance patches.
Fallout 4's launch was actually pretty stable, with exception of Playstation though, but that's not an issue now, is it?
I bought it on launch and I really don't remember having any issues. I'm always surprised it has such a bad rep.
Always important to remember that lots of opinions people are posting online are just things they read somewhere and are repeating.
I wonder how much launch instability like this is a result of hardware variation. Like, Redfall by all reddit accounts should be a waterfall of bugs, but I barely experienced any. Nothing more than in any popular Bethesda game, anyway.
Obviously plenty of games manage to launch without these issues - I'm not profering this thought as an excuse for it, just curious.
Edit: I like Redfall as a game, too. I almost didn't try it at all because its reputation makes out like it's the worst game ever with zero redeeming qualities at all.
I agree, its such a time-sink of a game that I don't mind waiting for a good experience from the start.
It’s Bethesda. It’ll never not be buggy.
I’ve no plans to get the game, but maybe I’ll check it out in three to five years when modders have fixed the game and added some real content.
I imagine it'll be good in a few months.
Bethesda gets a lot of criticism for buggy launches, but all huge games are just as bad really. I hit a game-breaking bug in Baldur's Gate 2 recently and had to enable cheats and use the console to even continue. And Cyberpunk also had loads of experience-ruining bugs like enemies seeing through walls repeatedly.
By then we might even have a McDonald's on every planet in the game. They did say they obsess over the food 😂
It been put back a year to polish. In in agreement that preordering in the digital age is silly, especially on Xbox where you can install a game without buying it yet ready for when you do, but theres no reason to think this will be as bad as their previous titles.
Every one of their previous titles is a valid reason to think it will be as bad as their previous titles.
Fallout 4 wasnt too bad at launch at least.
But more bugs than they should have
The best launch they've had in this century only rates "wasn't too bad". That's not the glowing endorsement you think it is.
Sorry, no, don’t me wrong. Their launches in general are bad. I just meant in relative terms
To me it's more than just the fit and finish. Bethesda writes awful stories. I can't think of a single stand-out character in their recent titles, like even going back to Oblivion. There's never any depth, you're never asked to question motives, they usually fall into bland and obvious archetypes and never really develop past that.
Fallout 4 at least tried somewhat with the followers, but even then none of the stories were particularly compelling.
However, the games do make for decent sandboxes, and modders do some really amazing things with them. That's what I'm looking forward to.
Plus with all my pessimism going into it, if Bethesda magically manages to pull something that's only semi-terrible out of their arse maybe I'll even be impressed. It'll be difficult to fall short of my expectations at least.