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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (10 children)
[–] ahnesampo@sopuli.xyz 48 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Twitter, Reddit, and Unity have not been profitable. This was fine when money was cheap (near zero interest rates). The market was awash with capital trying to find something that could turn a profit. A business plan that was basically underpants gnomes (1. Gather underpants 2. ???? 3. Profit!) was acceptable. Twitter’s and Reddit’s 1. was “gather users”, Unity’s “gather projects”. Now money isn’t free anymore, and capital is demanding that these businesses fill in 2. with something. Twitter is doing whatever Musk thinks is good, Reddit is trying to monetize its API to make AIs pay and to serve real users ads through its first party app, and Unity is trying to monetize the projects it has gathered. All of them have been offering a product below cost, and users are understandably angry that the cost is going up. (And in many cases, finding that the product isn’t really worth anything.)

Blizzard is different. It operates in a creative field and has been very profitable. Games are art as much as they are products that are sold. As such, they’re fickle: you can’t assembly line manufacture games and make a hit after hit. Artists in music that turn out bangers decade after decade are rare, as are authors, directors, etc. Blizzard’s streak of awesome games was bound to end eventually. AAA games are also extremely expensive to make: if you make an AAA game, it must be a hit or you’ll lose money. Alternatively, you can use dark patterns to monetize it, then it doesn’t have to be as good to make loads of money. Banking on your creatives to keep beating the odds is risky; infesting a good enough game with scummy monetization is a safer bet.

[–] Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

I'm still laughing at reddit and the ads thing. They pushed me more into blocking all their ads and tracking even harder, and to patch their official app when I had no choice but to go to reddit. Everything they've done has backfired as far as I'm concerned.

[–] beteljuice@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

TL;DR quantitative tightening

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, you're saying that Twitter would've gone the same way without Musk?

[–] darkevilmac@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think it would've gone the exact same route, but they would've become more aggressive about gaining revenue.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Twitter wasn't very profitable, but it wasn't hemorrhaging cash either. If Musk had come in, left most things alone, and focused on killing the actual dead weight while getting a little extra cash from blue checks his simp army would have had ammunition for another decade.

[–] Lt_Cdr_Data@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

It was in fact hemorrhaging money. They have been cash flow negative for quite some time now, with steadily decreasing assets. While they recently have been decreasing their short term debts, they have also been accumulating long term debt to such a degree, that in Q1 2022 their cash/debt ratio became negative.

All this long term debt must be becoming an increasing problem during the current economic climate.

No matter what you think of Musk, radical changes were absolutely necessary.

[–] GnomeKat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am extremely skeptical of the claim that these companies have not been profitable. Fuck they said LOTR trilogy lost money and they were some of the biggest movies of all time. I don't think these companies are above cooking the books to make it look like they are losing money on paper.

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